What really happened between Miranda Kerr and Justin Bieber?

Justin Bieber and his long list of famous exes have sometimes garnered more attention than his musical accolades. However, there could be a reason why the 28-year-old — before he married Hailey Bieber — always had someone on his arm. “I’m a relationship guy,” the singer shared during an interview with Australian radio station KIIS 1065 (per Billboard). “I love to be in love, I love to cuddle. I love all that stuff.” During a 2015 meetup with Men’s Health, the singer once again explained that he’s a relationship guy who “loves to bounce ideas off of the person I love.”

And while his most famous relationship — outside of his marriage, of course — was with singer and actress Selena Gomez, with whom he dated for almost a decade, some of Bieber’s less publicized Hollywood romances were still making waves for one reason or another . For example, Bieber is said to have once dated Miranda Kerr, an Australian model who rose to fame as a Victoria Secret angel. Officially, neither party has ever confirmed a romantic involvement, but that hasn’t stopped fans from trying to piece together a more complete picture based on the time they’ve spent together.

Did Justin Bieber and Miranda Kerr date?

Justin Bieber reportedly first met Miranda Kerr backstage at a Victoria’s Secret fashion show in 2012. That year, the singer took to the stage to perform while Kerr walked the runway. They were photographed backstage looking particularly cozy when Bieber kissed her on the cheek. However, according to various publications, things really took off after that. Hollywood Life noted that Bieber and Kerr “hooked up” after the show and sent each other “dirty texts.” Similarly, an anonymous source spoke to E! news, share, “[Justin and Miranda] Everyone partied until the early morning and the group headed back to the hotel. Bieber and Kerr acted flirtatious throughout the evening.” The same source added, “Since their already infamous meeting, Bieber has attempted to reach Kerr multiple times, but she has not supported his attempts to maintain a constant touch — they’ve been here and because a little texted. He was very persistent.”

However, Kerr vehemently denied ever dating the pop singer. According to TMZ, the model released a statement through her attorney, claiming the rumors were completely “false and defamatory.” Unfortunately, Kerr and her husband, actor Orlando Bloom, were finalizing their divorce around this time. And while none of the stars have ever said so openly, one of the rumors has been that Bieber’s relationship with Kerr led to the end of their marriage.

Orlando Bloom and Justin Bieber get into a fight over Kerr

Nothing stokes the flames of a rumored affair like the soon-to-be ex-husband knocking out the alleged other man. But that’s exactly what happened in 2013, when Justin Bieber and Orlando Bloom had a physical altercation. According to a TMZ source – who claimed to have witnessed the fight – Orlando Bloom was hanging out with other A-listers, including Leonardo Di Caprio and Paris Hilton, at Cipriani restaurant when Bieber approached him and tried to introduce himself. And when Bloom didn’t greet him cheerfully back, Bieber reportedly asked him what his problem was. Then Bloom struck. A second version paints a picture of a more scandalous affair, stating that Bieber claimed to have slept with Kerr, an event that the New York Daily News seems to confirm. According to an anonymous source close to the singer, “Bieber would brag about sleeping with Kerr while he was in the studio,” which allegedly spurred Bloom’s anger.

Meanwhile, Mirror UK’s report cites witnesses drawing Di Caprio into the drama. “Bieber said something to DiCaprio — I don’t know exactly what because it was seven or eighty feet away. Leo brushed his hands against him and said, ‘I don’t care what you say.’ Yes, he flicked it off,” a source shared. Whatever the true source of the conflict, after video of the fight made the rounds on social media, Bieber mocked Bloom by posting a photo of Kerr in a bikini and of Bloom crying in an unrelated incident (via Page Six).